In Search of a Discord Replacement
12 points by susanthenerd
12 points by susanthenerd
This is the first of these write-ups that touches on (but still doesn't manage to fully formulate) the vast feature set that Discord has and how many different groups of users use it.
I think that's the main point. Some things you can basically only use in one way (or somehow misuse as a solution for your own problems) but for Discord just in my light use I see these things that may or may not overlap:
Maybe we'll simply see several exoduses to different platforms, based on people's needs, not a 1:1 replacement like the freenode-libera event.
Interestingly I'm also still in some very old pre-Discord Slack communities, where the loss of messages after 3 months is not a huge deal. Doesn't mean I am advocating for Slack, but some things I kinda like better than on Discord.
Then again I'm apparently certified old because I've been on IRC for 25 years and find it ok, I'm on Slack and find it ok, and although my Discord account is from 2015 I've never loved it.
In my opinion Discord was never perfect at anything it does. If it wasn't for the conviniece to have things in the same spot, Discord wouldn't have survived. There are better messaging platforms imo, and there are better voice chat systems(mumble), but none of them are good together. I say this as someone that has been moderating big discord server for a few years now and I have had to experience first hand some of the stupid limitations discord has.
It does also seem like different groups use different feature subsets, so whenever someone argues that you can move to X, they can point out that X doesn't have Y, which is obviously the crucial feature of Discord, and shows why person 1 doesn't understand Discord enough to be advocating replacements.
Doesn't have to be perfect to be good enough. Especially for not-so-technical users.
I personally don't care so much about the massive servers, as long as mods can ban spammers and delete their messages, not sure if that is already a high bar. Maybe because these huge communities with open invites exist are a problem in itself for discussion about alternatives.
Mumble is great if you don't need streaming. Mumble's chat is so bad that I would bet that 75% of people in a call might miss that someone posted something at all. IIRC PTT on mobile was also not great.
I'm counting 7 discount "servers" I'm reasonably active in, 2 could be downright merged because 80% overlap, so let's say 6.
One I have never seen anyone speak in voice - this could be any text chat.
One I have seen people use voice/streaming once per month although it's massive, so people could move to something external if there's a blessed way.
4 make heavy use of voice chat and chat. Loss of streaming might be tolerable for 2-3 of them, but annoying.
Re: Jitsi integration (e.g. limits of Jitsi integration with Zulip), maybe we shouldn't underestimate the power of a channel where only links to long-standing Jitsi rooms are allowed to stay, and maybe we should make sure that this idea is obvious to everyone.
(I still think that the best online conference solution to outside-the-talks discussion for online conferences was not any of the GatherTown exercises but NixCon 2020 having a link to a shared pad with links to Jitsi rooms by topic, with some catch-alls)
I know we've had a lot of Discord-related posts, but I think this is now getting a bit too far into off topic for this site.