No, Cloudflare's Matrix server isn't an earnest project
71 points by Aks
71 points by Aks
Matthew Prince, the CEO of Cloudflare, responded:
It’s a proof of concept. Get off your high horse. 🙄
Yummy, innit?
Who's on the high horse here anyway? The blog post doesn't (didn't?) mention it was just a PoC, and is written so bombastically that IMO the backlash is justified. I also think the official response of Matrix is so transparently sucking up to Cloudflare because they want the money, it's sad.
In fact the README stated production-grade before the convo started.
Inverse Linus’s law: every program is production-grade if no one cares to give it a look.
You know the old joke about 1.0 software being less stable than software who's version starts with a zero?
Why was this needed then?
the Cloudflare author has updated their post, and also repeatedly attempted cover-ups in their source repository.
Clearly someone got embarrassed enough to try to cover their mistakes, if it was a PoC, why care about stuff like that? Wouldn't matter anyway.
Also, who puts a "Deploy to X" button for stuff that is supposed to be PoC? Kind of irresponsible of a "Security conscious" company.
Am I alone in feeling that there's been a general decline in standards? I keep being surprised that this whole debacle was CloudFlare Official.
Absolutely not, I have it too. For the last 4-5 years it feels like everything has more and more bugs, UX is less and less intuitive and new stuff appears that just doesn't make any sense. It's like reasonable people all left, and we're stuck with middle managers doing decisions they have no business making.
I've attributed it to getting older, but maybe actually it's not me, it's everything else.
This should probably be merged into /s/csxfc6, @pushcx
Why? I would not have read this if it had been merged over there (already read that one), but I liked this article more.
Typically responses get merged when they're this soon so the discussions stay together. Some of the new-ish features make the merges more visible lately, too, so hopefully you'd have been more likely to see it. Especially if you read /recent, /newest or /active.
All of this is just more reason to avoid Matrix as a whole, I think :/
Did they ever fix the bug that auto-corrupts the databases after a year or two of use?
I don't think one company being a bad actor should put you off an ecosystem they're not even a part of.
And which bug? I'm assuming you're referring to an issue in Synapse or PostgreSQL - which isn't the only server implementation out there